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Understanding Homeopathy in Today’s World

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Melissa is joined by registered homeopath Tanya Kell to discuss the growing interest in homeopathy and why many individuals are turning to holistic approaches that support the body’s natural healing abilities. Tanya discusses how homeopathy works, the concept of the vital force, and how remedies are selected to help bring the body back into balance and homeostasis. We also dive into the emotional side of healing, including conversations around stress, emotions, and generational trauma. The episode highlights commonly used remedies such as Arnica for pain relief, educational resources available through organizations like the Americans for Homeopathy Choice and the North American Society of Homeopaths, and Tanya’s new homeopathy classes for those wanting to learn more.

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SPEAKER_00

Hello, and welcome to the Nurses Report on America Out Loud Talk Radio. This is your show host, Melissa Schreidvatter, founder of both the Functional Nurse Academy and the Christian Functional Medicine Academy. Welcome everyone to today's show. I am so excited to be joined by our family's homeopath who just keeps fixing our kids. I mean, I cannot tell you how many times I have recommended Tanya Kell to like just about everybody I know. So Tanya Kell is a registered homeopath, educator, lifelong student of holistic healing. Her training includes studies through the Pacific Academy of Homeopathy in San Francisco and ESSH with Vega Rosenberg. She is registered with the North American Society of Homeopaths, and she is passionate about empowering clients through individualized care, education, and remedy recommendations tailored to each person's unique needs. Tanya believes healthcare should be accessible to everyone and is drawn to homeopathy's philosophy of supporting greater harmony and healing within the body rather than simply suppressing symptoms. Welcome, Tanya.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you. I'm glad to be here.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And I, you, I'm just so interested. Like when we step outside of just conventional care, where we have limited tools and we're looking into more integrative approaches to healthcare, there's so many tools. And one thing that I think is really amazing about homeopathy is homeopathy does not, whereas I have a love-hate relationship with nutraceuticals, guys. As you all know, I really, really preach against the overuse and oversupplementation. And I think it's a problem in holistic health where there are some practitioners that they just want to sell, sell, sell. And homeopathy, I think, is a wonderful modality because homeopathic remedies, I will say from my personal experience, are very effective, especially for children. And it's not something that people end up having to be dependent and taking all of these different remedies and buying all these costly supplements. So I would love if you could start off by just explaining, you know, um, how do homeopathic, because people get, I think, kind of confused and they think that, you know, herbal medicine or using any type of vitamin, that's homeopathic. Okay. Um, how does that differ, like taking nutraceuticals and herbs from homeopathic remedies?

SPEAKER_01

Right. So the first hurdle to overcome is the definition. And homeopathy is a distinct medical specialty that has a specific definition. And there are four parts to that, and that is single medicines given for the largest meaning for full totality of symptoms according to the law of similars in the minimum dose. So when you put all those things together and use minimum dose is where people get tripped up often, and that's where the skeptics come in because the idea of minimum dose is very difficult for them to comprehend. Um, although we see the action everywhere if you just look. And throughout history, there have been people hired or challenged to disprove homeopathy, and consistently when they do a deep dive, they become converts instead of skeptics. So I don't spend a lot of time addressing skeptics because they don't actually know what they're talking about. So it's kind of a waste of your breath. And I would like to address the curious and the willing and those that recognize that the old way of doing things is breaking down. And what are we going to do? We can't just take away our allopathic medical system and its global grip on human life. You have to have a structure in place to replace it. And there has to be good communication in order for that conversion to happen. So, as part of the North American Society of Homeopaths, I do a lot of reaching out and advocating for our profession and for the legal right to communicate with other medical professionals and to be included in medical plans. As we know, when there's no communication, everything breaks down. And it's exciting to be on this podcast and to talk to a group of medical professionals that are engaged and curious. Um, and are learning, unfortunately, that our job as healers is actually to put ourselves out of business because you don't want repeat customers. You want people to get healthy and be set free. And so converting the mind from that um state of victimization and dependency and need to empowerment and freedom is part of the process of converting to holistic, including homeopathic medicine. So I kind of start there. Like, what are your goals as a person? Um, what is the context in which you are entering into this relationship? How much responsibility and insight do you have about yourself and your health and and how you're achieving that? Um, because that's as individual as every person who comes before you, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And I do want to share, and I we were talking about this before we started recording, about how you just keep fixing my babies. I mean, you know, so as you all know, I do have two babies in the next room. I have a nine-month-old and a two-year-old. And they both have issues with eczema. And I see the same thing over and over. Like my little baby, my nine-month-old, I like forgot he had eczema because I just got on a call with you, Tanya. And it's it's so it's consistent every time. You will recommend like his eczema will flare and it looked really bad. And we did a session together. You told me to give him one dose of remedy. The next day, I see an exasperation of the eczema, and then it goes away. And right now he has zero eczema. And then my bigger baby, my two-year-old, we call them big baby and little baby. But anyway, hers is um what was a little worse. But again, with the remedies, like it'll flare. I give her the remedy, and then it will completely go away. And then we might have an exasperation like several months later. But my friends who have children that are dealing with eczema, they're consistently having to even go to the point of getting prescribed steroid cream and things like that. And then again, it just suppresses the symptoms, but it keeps coming back and it's it just keeps getting worse. Where I'm seeing things with my kids that are essentially almost completely resolved. And um, I did want to speak to um the skeptics of homeopathy, because what is so interesting is so many skeptics are like, homeopathy, it doesn't work, it's sham, all these things. And then they're like, it's placebo effect. If you're having a benefit from homeopathy, it's just a placebo. And I'm like, okay, well, how is there a placebo effect for um a toddler who's using homeopathy and it's getting better? And then as a mom, I see the same thing over and over occur. And I also wanted to speak to something else. So if you go to your uh handy dandy Google search engine, and then you type in homeopathy, the first thing that comes up is not the North American Society of Home of Homeopaths, it is Wikipedia. And where the first line says, and they do the same thing to functional medicine, guys. The first line says, homeopathy is a pseudoscientific system of alternative medicine. And then it goes on to say that there was a series of meta-analysis that have shown the therapeutic claims of homeopathy lack scientific justification. And I will say, as an educator in the functional medicine space, I see this consistently, where the competitors with effective natural modalities will spend a lot of money doing studies trying to disprove their competitors who really don't have as much money as they do. And then it goes mainstream.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, I would love to hear your feedback on that, like when they are saying, So, yes, one meta-analysis was done, and um, it has been shown to be a fraud. They had to curate which um studies they put into the meta-analysis in order to get the result they wanted. So they did it twice. They did it once, and it showed positive effects of homeopathy. And so that person was fired, and they had someone else redo the meta-analysis, excluding um certain studies, so that it would come out that homeopathy had no positive effects. Um, but once you put the information out into the public domain and it's picked up by media outlets, et cetera, um debunking afterwards is highly ineffective because that never gets put out into the public domain. No one gets fired for lying on a report that was because they were ordered to do so, et cetera. Um, yeah, like I said, if people were authentic in their curiosity, they would have found out that those meta-analyses were fraudulent and that um when done according to the standards of how meta-analyses are done in the scientific community, there is no way to manipulate the numbers that shows that homeopathy does not work. It always comes out as positive.

SPEAKER_00

And something else I have seen a trend in is because I do a lot of research into herbal remedies and things like that. And what I will see, these large medical organizations that are funded by the pharmaceutical companies, they are literally always funded by the pharmaceutical companies. It's obvious. And I mean, it's listed on their website, but for some reason people can't read that. But anyway, um, I will see where they will say, oh, you know, herbs and supplements are ineffective. Yeah, we did a study. There was there's a study, and then they link it and they're like, oh, it didn't work. And then I look at the studies and it's the same playbook over and over where they will take something that actually has been showing efficacy. They will do a trial, they will intentionally underdose whatever the supplement is, and then they also will do like a uh decreased duration or they will use a poor quality supplement. So I always find it interesting that the other side, when they do these, you know, studies to see if it's safe or not, they're essentially never using the appropriate dosage or duration that is typically used in successful treatment. And I wonder if that is happening with homeopathy as well. I mean, because if I'm I'm sure there are many, many different ways that you can pull off a sham study by just not using it appropriately.

SPEAKER_01

Right, or designing the study according to inappropriate parameters because homeopathy is individualized medicine. So our method of diagnosis is different. And so when you say asthma, that means nothing to a homeopath. Is it worse breathing in? Is it worse breathing out? Is it related to allergies? Is it adult onset? Is it child onset? Is there a family history of asthma? You know, um, is is there fear? Do the does it get so bad that you're hospitalized and turned blue? Um, is it set off by cold, by heat? There's so the actual diagnosis of asthma is an almost meaningless starting point. It gives us a little bit of foundation and context. You know, that's the symptom that we want to improve over time, but it is not the essential piece of information. And so if you're trying to find out if remedy X works for this piece of information, like which remedies worse work for asthma, that's like saying to a medical doctor, you know, which medicine works for empty fire in the liver. They have no idea what you're talking about. Now, if you're a Chinese medical doctor, you're on it. What works for cold in the kidneys? What works for a damp spleen? A medical doctor is going to look at you like you're crazy because you're not speaking the same language. So if they try to do research projects without even establishing parameters, language, and context, then of course the results are a mess because you're not on the same page.

SPEAKER_00

And could you speak to the legitimate published studies that we have on homeopathy?

SPEAKER_01

There is a compendium kept by Americans for Homeopathy Choice. And then there's also a large research library on the American Institute for Homeopathy's website. And so the American Institute for Homeopathy is the first medical association in the United States ever formed, and it's still in ongoing today. And um the AMA was formed in opposition to the Homeopathic Medical Association because um they felt threatened and has spent their entire career trying to exclude homeopathy from medical practice.

SPEAKER_00

So, and I and again, with my students, I always tell my students, I'm like, do not use Google for your research. Use an independent browser like brave. But again, most people are using Google. So I'm just using Google right here. And you mention um the American for homeopathy, uh, for homeopathy choice. And you're, you know, mentioning these reputable homeopathic websites where we can go to find that research. And if you just put that guys in your Google search engine, it's not going to show up on that first page. And they know that people are less likely to look through other pages. Most people stop at that first page. But again, all you get when you Google it is basically a bunch of propaganda from mainstream, from, you know, WebMD, Cleveland Clinic, Wikipedia, basically all saying that it doesn't work. So um, but yeah, I think it's good. I want to put those links in the show notes. That way people can go through, read published research from a legitimate website on homeopathy and then, you know, use their own discernment. And um, I would love to hear, you know, with the homeopathic remedies, what exactly is a homeopathic remedy? And then how does it work to support the body?

SPEAKER_01

All right. So a remedy is not homeopathic until it's properly applied. It is simply a diluted and succussed substance. And so the the manufacturer, manufacture is separate from the application. And homeopathy, the word means similar suffering. And so until you apply the two and a cure ensues, it is actually not homeopathic. It's simply a diluted substance being given to the body. So that's the real crux of misunderstanding. So everybody thinks if it's been diluted and succussed, prepared the way that medicines that homeopaths use are prepared, then it's homeopathic. It is not. It is simply a diluted drug. It becomes homeopathic when it interacts with a susceptible human being, plant, or animal, and provokes a healing reaction. So we have um the medicines, which some people like to call them nanomedicine, some people like to call them potencies, etc. Um, and they're just medicines. What makes them homeopathic is the proper application to an ailing living thing. The part of homeopathy that remains controversial is mechanism of action. Science has not caught up with what we observe in clinical practice. So there are many theories about um what happens, and people are taking the avenue of nanoparticles, uh, quantum physics, um there's some other fancy uh name of some kind of science thing that is beyond my comprehension. I am a clinician, so what concerns me is do I get results? Um, and so the law of similars holds that what a substance will cause in overdose or massive dose, it will cure in minute dose. So we have inverse action. That uh takes into account the intelligence of the body, that symptoms have meaning. They are the language of the body. Disease is not the enemy, disease is not an entity separate from the living being. Um, it is the language of something in distress. And so a homeopath reads that language. What is this um person, body, animal asking for in its in support of its healing? So symptoms are actually the body's best attempt at the moment to heal itself. It's always trying to write itself. Uh, we have an innate mechanism of healing, and it gets derailed. We live in a toxic world. Um, we have a lot of stress, there's a lot of um spiritual, emotional uh oppression. Um human beings are not kind to each other, we have poisoned our environment. Um, we have all of these unnatural ways in which we try to live our lives, uh, unnatural and unhealthy beliefs about ourselves that, you know, in homeopathy we have a cute word. We call it morbific influences. And so we just lots of things that impinge on our lives and our life force and our flow. And when that gets impinged upon, the body responds by putting out symptoms. Hey, I'm in distress. And often it can write itself if we just leave it alone, and sometimes it can't. It's just struggling. And so it continues to put out symptoms, and symptoms become greater, and that life gets impinged upon more and more. And so the homeopath believes that those symptoms are valuable and they that the body is intelligent. And so we look at the pattern of those symptoms and try to understand what we need to give the body in order to help it heal itself. And so a remedy is more to me like a piece of information for the body the body and and the vital force that animates it to reorganize itself and find its way back to health. So a remedy doesn't actually go in there and do anything other than create a response from the body toward healing rather than toward death. And so when you said your children get a little bit worse after they take that remedy, that's that vital force rallying in the direction of wellness. So it it pushes back against the remedy. So we use the rebound effect in the opposite way that allopathic medicine does. So rather than suppress a symptom, you enhance it microscopically just a tiny bit to get you over to the edge where the body goes, Oh, I don't want to go that way. I want to go the other way. So that little bit of exacerbation of symptoms is a good thing. That's the body rallying, understanding what it's doing, and then turning around and going the other way back toward health.

SPEAKER_00

So essentially, they are the homeopathic remedies are helping to bring the body back into homeostasis, where with we, as we know, medication therapies tend to suppress certain symptoms. But we know the vast majority of medications are not actually healing what is going on underneath, except for, say, when someone has an acute infection. And they may need to use antibiotics and whatnot. But I did want to ask you. Um, oh, and I also wanted to bring up another thing. I speak about this frequently that the body has innate wisdom. The body loves us. The body wants to heal. And God designed our bodies to be able to have healing mechanisms. And the body speaks to us in symptoms. So we really need to listen to the body because if you're having these random symptoms, your check engine light is on. Something is going on that needs to be addressed. But a lot of times, because we live in this modern day environment, especially for women, you know, when women are not feeling well, they're not going to be like, well, I'm just going to go rest until I recover because we are living in these environments now where many women don't have the village anymore to help to raise children. And, you know, a lot of people are living away from their family members and feel kind of isolated and don't have that help. So they have to do everything themselves. So they're not able to rest when something is going on. And then it becomes very desirable when someone is offering you a medication that can just, you know, help cut get help keep the edge off and help with those symptoms. But then what is actually going on underneath if you don't address those issues? And I did have a question for you. You mentioned that when remedies are given, that it basically is impacting the vital force. Can you explain what the vital force is?

SPEAKER_01

Right. So can you tell me the difference between a live body and a dead body biochemically?

SPEAKER_00

Well, the live body has energy. A live body has blood coursing through the veins. A live body has um it um has chemical reactions.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So what causes those chemical reactions to happen in a live body versus a dead body?

SPEAKER_00

Energy.

SPEAKER_01

The vital force is what we call it. That's the only difference. All of your cells are the same, all the chemicals in the body are the same, all your neurons are the same, your enzymes are the same, your mitochondria are the same, everything's exactly the same. The only thing that has changed between life and death is the vital force.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. And so I also that kind of bridges into another question because, like I said before, we know that when there are alternative modalities that may not be big money makers, such as homeopathy, that are effective, but may be a competitor for, for example, pharmaceuticals that have a lot of potential for revenue, we see that pushback. I'm also noticing this in Christian communities. And I have seen for there's this one Christian organization. I'm not going to mention the name, but there's this one Christian organization that they think that vaccines, that's science. And that's just fine, even though that there is aborted uh fetal cell lines in the vaccines, because that is science. So we need to go do that. But um, they also say that things like homeopathy are occultic. And they say that homeopathy is occultic because they use terms such as vital force. Would you be able to are are you able to speak to that from like a biblical perspective?

SPEAKER_01

Well, um, yeah, the the idea is so odd.

SPEAKER_00

It brings me absolutely crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So again, how much time do we spend trying to convince someone who isn't logical um and and has has very strange ideas? Um so we don't want to call it the Holy Spirit because we the but that would be um a close, you know, the Shekinah that gets breathed into each person as we first enter uh this plane from the other side. Um the Bible speaks of spirit everywhere, uh, and that um our creator has imbued all of his creation with spirit, and so each uh piece of his creation has his spirit in it. And so why would he in in his all-lovingness withhold parts of himself from us?

SPEAKER_00

You know, and also it does mention in in Genesis how God breathed life into Adam. And and then also we go into this, and and and I will say, I do think that there is occultic infiltration in the holistic side of healthcare because we do see people using things like tarot cards and and essentially practicing witchcraft. But but that is like the extreme side of things. I am not seeing that occur in things like homeopathy or um most of the, you know, the vast majority of holistic modalities, just like we have an like some extremism in conventional medicine where they literally are aborting all of these fetuses and then using it for biomedical research. I mean, I don't think that you can get much more occultic than that. But um, anyway, we're we're about um, this is a very, this is a very interesting side of the topic. But anyway, we're about halfway through the show. So we're gonna go ahead and pause for a break. And I do want to remind our listeners, if you are a fed up nurse and you want to leave the sick care system, I can absolutely train you at the Functional Nurse Academy. FA is the most comprehensive functional nurse training program on the market. Not only will I train you in how to use and how to apply functional medicine within scope of practice, but I also teach you the business side of owning a functional medicine business. So if you'd like to learn more about that, go to functional nurseacademy.com. I also will post my link for the next free webinar in the show notes. And for our America Out Loud listeners, Chemical Free Body is offering a very generous discount to you all. So be sure that you head over to America Out Loud Shop and then use the coupon code Out Loud for 20% off of your purchase. And be sure that you check out their gut health products. I will see you on the other side of the break. Hello, and welcome back to the Nurses Report on America Out Loud Talk Radio. This is your show host, Melissa Schreibfetter. And I am joined today by Tanya Kell, who is a seasoned homeopath, and we are talking anything and everything homeopathy today. So the first part of the show, we did some myth busting about how we are seeing mainstream sources say that homeopathy is a pseudoscience. We talked about how homeopathy is actually a legitimate alternative form of healthcare. And we also are talking about how homeopathy works and the unfortunate controversy in the Christian community. And um, well, yeah, there's so many good things to talk about here. So welcome back, Tanya. And I did want to ask you, because I'm and I actually um when I was in the process of hiring a homeopath, of course I was in all of the mom groups. And then if you just type in homeopathy, um, Tanya Kell shows up about like 400 times. So I know that you've been doing this for quite a while, obviously have many, many, many, many clients. And um and again, I do want to speak to the holistic healthcare practitioners listening to this. Um, in the business of like being an effective alternative practitioner, you know, you again, like you don't want people being dependent on you and being need to have into like book sessions with you all the time. You really want them to heal. And how you have a successful business within that is those people get better and then they go tell everybody about you. And then you have all of these new clients coming your way, and then you have this strong referral basis. So I wanted to ask, do you have any success stories that you would like to share?

SPEAKER_01

Well, of course, you want every single person who comes across your path to do well. Um, and so I more carry around the failures. Every person that didn't get well, you kind of add it to the sack of I should have done better and why didn't I fix them, right? Um, one of our flaws is we we try to be perfect, and um, perhaps that client just wasn't for us and we weren't the one to partner on their healing journey. Um, but lovely successes are, of course, my practice is young family oriented. And so people who have been able to raise their children medicine-free. So no vaccines, no antibiotics, no fever medicines, um, no drugs of any sort. And those kids are now becoming teenagers and getting cell phones and learning to call me themselves when something happens. Um I really focus on empowering people for some really important um societal problems. So pain management, so teaching families and children how to deal with pain with remedies instead of drugs, um, even for surgeries, tooth extractions, more extreme things. If we can keep pain management within the holistic field and away from um predatory pharmaceuticals, and then antibiotic use, because antibiotic resistance is becoming a global problem and teaching people um uh first-line and very rapidly effective methods of taking care of acute and infectious, contagious disease without the use of fever reducers and antibiotics. So for me, success is uh integrating homeopsy into a family lifestyle where they think of it first. And like you said, they learn to love their body enough to understand that symptoms are simply its language and it's not the enemy that you're working together.

SPEAKER_00

Another thing, when you mentioned that you work with families that made the decision not to vaccinate, um, then of course we may have children that may be naturally getting, heaven forbid, the chicken pox, or even the measles, which yes, the measles can have, if someone is malnourished, you know, um, there actually can be some very severe complications of the measles. And I think that what mainstream medicine is is not taking into consideration is that when you are working to support a healthy immune system, then you of course are gonna have more resiliency when you get certain infections. And also I wanted to ask, you know, when we talk about things like childhood illnesses, and we know that a child with a robust immune system very likely is gonna get the chicken pox and they're gonna be just fine. Or um the chance of them being fine after getting the measles also is very, very high, even though the measles is pretty miserable, but we know the vast majority of children um will get through it just fine. But then we do have that population of individuals where maybe they um already have a chronic health condition or some type of immune system disorder. And then those individuals may be more susceptible to certain infections. Um, have you had success with, you know, maybe um individuals like children that were maybe born with chronic health conditions, have um were just maybe have like genetic diseases and things like that, and they're just more susceptible to everything? Have you had success or any experience in those cases?

SPEAKER_01

I have limited experience, but you brought up an important issue that I think we can't gloss over, and that is public health. And what does that mean? And where do um global policies, governmental policies, war, poverty, exploitation come in? And what is their relationship to disease? Because where do we get these horrible outbreaks? Um, and that will be refugee camps and places where people are under spiritual, psychic, emotional, mental, physical stress. And um, these diseases come in and can wipe out whole populations. So we can't just say, well, we do individualized medicine, we're gonna fix one person at a time. What happens in our society, in our world, how we um manage violence, how we bring food to our tables, these all matter in holistic healing. And these are conversations that can't be left to the side because you we don't live in a vacuum. These diseases don't happen in a vacuum. And um if we truly believe in the goodness of our creator, there is something for us to learn and and um better ourselves through how we manage these disease states. So that's a that's a difficult and multifaceted conversation, but I just didn't want to gloss over it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and and I've been lately, I am so much more in tune with just biblical wisdom because there is so much in the Bible about the importance of things like forgiveness, not worrying and casting all of your worries on him, about how you cannot add another minute to your life by worrying about things. And I do think that that is something that is so special about things like homeopathy or functional medicine, is we understand, we know that we don't just have this body that's in this vacuum. Um, this body also has a soul. And we also need to be we need to address the emotional well-being of that individual and that spiritual well-being as well, because those are all really important factors. And I also wanted to ask, I know that homeopathy also recognizes that, um, is it correct that homeopathy recognizes that past generational trauma? Say that the mother has a history of trauma that has not been properly processed, and then maybe the mom's mom also has trauma. Um is it true that homeopathy also takes that into consideration with, say, young children looking into the family trauma history?

SPEAKER_01

It can do. Like we said, one of the foundational aspects of homeopathy is largest meaningful totality. And so to explain that, if you just cut your finger in the moment, staunching the blood is the largest meaningful totality. That's what's going on. But if you have some deep autoimmune or psychological illness from a very young child, it's not your lifetime of trauma. It's not your baggage and and your burden. It's not where did it come from? And so then, you know, epigenetics starts to explain some of it. That's still a field that's not fully understood. Um, we understand it more um in in pattern, passing down pattern to pattern. We all know that um we were alive in our grandmothers' bodies um through the the creation of ovaries. So um there was a sharing of experience in some way there. So, yes, we do believe that um patterns of trauma get passed down through families, and it can be through both sides, mothers and fathers. Um and also serious disease or repeated diseases throughout the family's history can leave an imprint on the way the body expresses distress. And so that we have a word for that called miasm, which also takes lots of explaining, but it's just mean that there's a foundational soil for where how the body um experiences distress and expresses symptoms.

SPEAKER_00

And I also wanted to ask on the emotional side of it, do you see that some individuals that may have a personal history of trauma or generational trauma, do you see that some people, when they find that correct remedy, may experience an emotional release during their homeopathic treatment?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, absolutely. Um, sometimes it's it's very profound and needs support through different types of therapies or or um tapping. There's different ways people process emotional stuff. Um, and sometimes it's just very easy and natural where it just melts away and they stop having the nightmares and they stop being hypervigilant and they stop having the anxiety attacks and whatever, and they they forget. Um they they're like, oh yeah, I I hardly remember what it was like to be in that state. It just naturally melts away. It's different for everybody, and also how perfectly exact is your remedy. But a remedy is meant to integrate all of the parts of the being. And if you're fully integrated, then your resilience um is maximized and you're able to put those traumas in perspective and not carry them in the here and now because they're not happening in this moment. So, you know, certain um reactions are appropriate if you are currently under threat. You you want, you know, adrenaline surges and and you want narrow focus on things and you want hypervigilance if you're in danger. But when that moment is over, can you reintegrate into um I like Caesar Milan? Calm, confident.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And that is something I will say conventional medicine has really come around to is the acknowledgement that, yes, your thoughts, feelings, and emotions and absolutely stress can trigger many health conditions. But again, we know that that system is not set up appropriately to properly assess and even help people to, you know, um be able to properly process emotions. And another thing with just emotional health and people that have a history of trauma, things like that, some of the, and I'm not against cognitive behavioral therapy, but I know of many instances where people have these, maybe they're holding on to trauma, unforgiveness, grief, something like that. And they go into these therapy sessions where they're just, they just keep talking about it again. And then that again, in a way, they're like reliving it. And I feel like there's so many therapy techniques where these poor suffering individuals are, they're just kind of spinning their wheels and not getting progress. And then I see so many of those situations where, you know, they're still, you know, they're in therapy, but they're still not getting progress. And then they end up going on, you know, things like psychiatric medications because these past things that have happened to them is causing so much distress. So I think that that is a wonderful thing that homeopathy can also address that side of it. And I do think it's so interesting when the body actually experiences a physical release of when these emotions are um, you know, um basically being released and um being processed. And um, I also wanted to ask, so I know that so if you go into which I I actually don't even think that they're offering the homeopathic remedies at I know they used to offer them at at Whole Foods and not seeing them anymore. I know that they're available at some like local health food stores, but um Why, when you look at different homeopathic remedies, many of them will say, oh, this is for, for example, for pain or this is for sinus congestion or headache or whatever. Why is it important to work with the homeopath to ensure that the remedy that you are taking is actually right for you versus just going online and saying, okay, um, I have a headache. What remedy should I take?

SPEAKER_01

Right. So those labels were um instated recently due to a policy change from the FDA. So homeopathic medicines used to be labeled use according to standard homeopathic indications, meaning you had to know what remedies were about, you had to study, you had to be educated, uh, you had to have books because there's so much that a remedy can be for. Um, and you had to know how to sort through all that information to what was essential. Again, be able to identify the largest meaningful totality, what's meaningful in your symptomology and what remedy matches those meaningful symptoms and syndromes and sensations. So the FDA decided we needed to put a label and give a diagnosis that particular medicines were for. So that's why they're unreliable, because you just have to pick something that fits on a very small bottle when there may be 20 pages of information.

SPEAKER_00

And I think that's also very, very interesting because when people put in homeopathy and they go into their local health food store and they're like, well, I used a homeopathic room for my headache, but nothing happened. But then it's kind of like, well, that probably wasn't the right remedy for you. And do you have, I know there's are so many remedies out there, and I know it depends on that individual's composition, their symptoms, who that unique individual is to be able to pair up the proper remedy. But are there specific homeopathic remedies that stand out to you that you think are extremely useful in, you know, a variety of populations?

SPEAKER_01

We have medicines that we call polycrests, meaning that they're useful in many different types of situations. So and many different parts of the body to if the symptoms match. And so those are usually found in um home, what we call home kits. So uh you buy a set of 50 or sometimes as little as 15, but 50 is usually a nice chest of medicines that um cover a lot of different symptoms and syndromes and can be used in many different ways. So, you know, the the starter drug for homeopathy is usually arnica because it's fairly specific to injuries and swelling and trauma, physical trauma. It's easy to figure out, easy to use, very small totality, right? I hurt myself, I'm taking some Arnica. Um, there are other remedies for bruising and trauma and swelling, but they're further down on the list. You can individualize Arnica doesn't work every time, but it works most of the time. So if you're an 80%er, you get to know Arnica for injuries. And then there'll be there's those few outliers where you need to know more. But the polycrests will be things like arsenicum, noxvomica, pulsatilla, um, lycopodium, sulfur, natrimure, it'll be a bunch of different things. So they have deep and important psychological and emotional profiles, but they also have straightforward superficial acute care profiles as well.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well, that's great to know that, you know, it it's possible for individuals, they may not have a history in homeopathy, that there are kits that they can use for, you know, specific ailments and acute ailments. I love that. And I also wanted to ask, so I know that you mentioned that not only are you seeing clients now that um may have homeopathic needs, you also said that you are educating practitioners and the general public. I would love to hear more about your educational programs.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, sure. So I started in 2001, I think, and I've graduated a few classes, and several of those students have gone on to be homeopathic practitioners. I've always just done very small groups. Um, and recently I've come to realize that there are other educational institutions that have really leveled up and are teaching really good classes. Um, but there's a gap between the home prescriber who has a little um synopsis within their kit and treats a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and the full-blown practitioner who does it full-time as their career. And some people, you know, it's it's quite a commitment to for four years and um $20,000 to $40,000 of um for for educational expenses. So you better be sure that you want to do it if you're gonna join a um institution of higher learning. And so I've modified my program to be that bridge between I'm really curious, I really love this, I really think this is interesting, I really want to know how to think like a homeopath, I want to know what the resources are, I want to see what it's like to be in practice, I want to have some supervision as I um try giving a few things out to people I know and see if this suits me. And if then if you're really serious, because the but once the bug hits you, you like can never put your homeopathic books down. So if you're one of those, then you're very suited to go into school. We want our graduates to actually go into practice. So um the rate of attrition has been higher than we like. Um, as president of the National Society of Homeopaths, we want to see people go into school, finish school, and come out of school going into practice. And that's not happening as much as we would like. So mine is sort of a pre-course to make sure you have what it takes to carry it through.

SPEAKER_00

Wonderful. And we have, of course, a ton of nurses that are probably listening to this that are already doing functional medicine, holistic modalities. So, would this be appropriate for, say, a functional medicine nurse that wants to have just kind of like a foundational level of experience to be able to implement some um homeopathic modalities into their career business?

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely, because I teach you how to use the books, how to look things up, how to elicit the information you need, how to organize that information. And then I do therapeutic topics such as accidents, injuries, and surgery support, um, allergies, eyes, ears, nose, and throat, um, children's conditions, uh, pregnancy, childbirth, and nursing. So all the stuff where it's difficult for any other modality to really come in there, GI problems, et cetera, et cetera. So you'd be well equipped to support people with um their immune immediate therapeutic acute needs. And then you'd understand what's out of your scope and know how to make referrals, or you would be prepared to enter into a full program.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_01

And my hours are transferable to a couple of other programs.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, wonderful. Well, I may need to sign up with you because again, there's just, and again, that's why I love functional medicine and being in holistic health because there are so many tools that we can use to help people. And it is like the best feeling in the world when you're working with someone and they start getting better. Like I still get I still get giddy about it. So, well, I am just so happy for all the great work that you're doing. And I had no idea that you were teaching these classes. I think that this is this is gonna be huge because I mean, you're so well experienced in this. So, well, thank you for coming on the show. It's been a delight. Thank you for having me. Yes, absolutely. And to our listeners, uh, before we close out, I do want to remind you, it's not just nurses that are suffering in the sick care system. It's pretty much everybody else. So, for that reason, I did launch our sister school, which is called Christian Functional Medicine Academy. So I am essentially training everybody else in healthcare. Licensed healthcare professionals, as well as unlicensed healthcare professionals and certified health and wellness coaches can receive accredited functional medicine training as well as business mentorship from me. And that is at Christian Functional Medicine Academy, Christian FMA.com. So be sure to check that out. And thank you all so much for tuning in today. I do want to remind you all that at the Nurses Report, we are here five days per week at 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. I am the Tuesday show host, but make sure you tune in on the other weekdays to listen to the rest of our wonderful nurse hosts. You can follow us on any major podcast app, and we play on America Out Loud to Talk Radio. Until next time, be safe, be well, and God bless.